We bought, we tried, we returned as it was complete poop.

[John A. Ross]

Was planning on this as a pressie to Paul as he just LOVES shimming heads and keeps using that damn vernier that measures outside edges.... he was kind enough to sortout some Puegot 107 woes for me as he loves modern junk (his job after all )



First off, battery was fitted, and DEAD

Take first measurment at zero AFTER zero the guage, -0.01
Touch lever, 0.00, yes just touch
Take measurement again +0.02

Dont go near the lever, dont even turn the whole thing around, it changes !

And thats using its own zero/ref stop

Complete crap, but as its was from Amazon back in the packet and off it goes back to where it cam from

The actual body/movement was very nice, shame they could not do the tolerances for the encoder to work.

[PMCG]

That's the dood thing about Amazon, no hassle returns.

I keep meaning to buy one of the ones for measuring discs and pads easily.

[Uncle Henry]

Pay nowt and get crap : not really unexpected, John

UH

[John A. Ross]

Andy

I am a forever optimist was a bit cheaper than the Mitutoyo one I have been eying up

[Uncle Henry]

I was joint apprentice of the year in my first year as an engineer with a guy called Phil. We both received a Mitutoyo 0 to 1" digital micrometer as our reward. Being 1971, it was an engineered marvel ! Sadly, I dont still have it

UH

[Uncle Henry]

Blimey ! They're £160 even now

UH

[John A. Ross]

I was joint apprentice of the year in my first year as an engineer with a guy called Phil. We both received a Mitutoyo 0 to 1" digital micrometer as our reward. Being 1971, it was an engineered marvel ! Sadly, I dont still have it

UH

That would have been cutting edge tech then Andy, shame you never kept hold of it. Some of the newer instruments not a patch on ones from that period.

Mind you the next generation will just scan things on the phone and thats the deed done

Was astonished to find this the other week. https://canvas.io/

Scan with an iPad, add dimensions, there is your room in 3D. 5 years ago that was a £5k scanner !

[John A. Ross]

Blimey ! They're £160 even now

UH

Andy, yip, I keep looking and thinking I need one, then its back on with something else. No digital readout on the one I have now and its in mils

Was worth a punt.

[Uncle Henry]

I seem to recall we were given £50 each to spend at the local tool shop, and yes, it was cutting edge. So I guess its dropped a fair bit in price, compared to 1971. I was earning £7.50 a week as an apprentice and I think £35 to £40 a week would have been a skilled man's wage back then.

UH

[PMCG]

Some decent reviews though.

Want me to order one as a second try?

[John A. Ross]

Pat, you could try, Paul is still using his ex wkik fit calliper vernier for checking shim sizes

I can only see a man suffer so much throwing spanners around when shimming a head

Reckon they are just crap though, I picked him up a R17 to go with the big valve head his mate just refurbed for him and those honda civic carbs, so more shimming on the horizon

I need to film him, its funnier than one of Beadles clips

[Petowner]

Funny how colleagues tend to use vernier calipers for ACCURATE measurements , l only use them for rough measurement , unless l can't get a micrometer in to check with that , l was always taught that different people will come up with different sizes when measuring the same item with verniers .
Don't particularly like digital micrometers anyway. Give me a good old fashioned micrometer and you won't go far wrong.
I always had the reputation of , give it to Bob he checks EVERYTHING , when most didn't bother , turns out to be a good thing .
Certain corners you can cut in toolmaking but it's knowing which corners you're allowed to.

Bob

[Petowner]

I was joint apprentice of the year in my first year as an engineer with a guy called Phil. We both received a Mitutoyo 0 to 1" digital micrometer as our reward. Being 1971, it was an engineered marvel ! Sadly, I dont still have it

UH

I started out at Rotax \ Lucas Aerospace as a trainee (not apprentice) in our first year all trainees made a toolbox and certain amount of tools , they are still in use today even have my EITB Training logs tucked away in special section on rear of toolbox.
Those were the Good Old Days , Rotax took on 30 trainees (blue coats) and 30 apprentices (green coats) every year , trainees geared to going on shop floor and apprentices geared to going in offices.

Bob

[Uncle Henry]

Bob, is that the same Rotax as the spiffing bike/kart engines ?

I was at Stone Platt, who made a variety of products including boilers for the Admiralty, air conditioning units for trains and self-generating bouys. They took around 6 to 8 apprentices annually. All in blue boiler suits . All went through the Training Centre and day release to college. We also made a toolbox and various tools to put in it through the 1st year. Mine were mistakenly left in a Ford Thames 100E van when it was sold, none of which was ever seen again ! The only ones pushed towards the offices were woofters who didn't like getting their hands dirty . The best went to the Tool Room or R and D. The rest into full time production, although we all had to do a spell in each department through the 4 years. We were encouraged to "broaden our horizons" at the end, meaning " you're now too expensive to retain".

UH

[John A. Ross]

.... in our first year all trainees made a toolbox and certain amount of tools , they are still in use today even have my EITB Training logs tucked away in special section on rear of toolbox.
Those were the Good Old Days , Rotax took on 30 trainees (blue coats) and 30 apprentices (green coats) every year , trainees geared to going on shop floor and apprentices geared to going in offices.

Bob

Bob, I can remeber thinking back when i first started at FCT why they included fabrication, welding and tool making in the training but kept forgetting as well as Electronics & Electrical I had opted for the few modules that would have been left to complete the Electrical & Mechanical degree at same time.

So it was sheet metal slice and dice, fold, weld for the toolbox. I could do most of that anyway well before I left school even. But getting to the mills and lathes was a new experience and we were made to make a toolmakers vise even threading the lead screw and knurling.

So still use the same exmples which are timeless.